Comments on: You May be a Child Abuser!

By: Rusty

Rusty — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:08:45 +0000

Roy,

There is such a tradition and I discovered its roots.

It comes from time long ago when the community in the city was very much dependant and often related to in blood the people that lives in the hills.

The people in the city, often called lowlanders benefited from part of the family working in the mountains. Part of this was they served as watch guards or bantayan which I learned means watch place. They had these in the Visayas because of the frequent raids of the Moro.

At Christmas time the people from the hills came down for their rewards from the family and/or tribe that they serve.

That’s not really needed any more but the tradition held on. It continues on strongly in Tacloban, less so here in Northern Cebu but it is tradition and nothing to be ashamed of. Its a rich history of community.

If I remember “dan” means place so Danbantayan is a watch place. Wich is a small town just north of Bogo.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if you apply traditions in Manila to the entire country you will be making a massive mistake.

I did answer your question about why its every where. You’re just stubborn and I, of course, am not. HAHA

By: tone

tone — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:42:34 +0000

I think it is very funny how long this argument went on. If the law stated both public and private places then that is what it meant i.e everywhere. the examples given were only meant to give some illustration not to limit the areas to which it applied. The legislation is good intentioned, but badly worded as it could include many innocent scenarios which would be open to exploitation by devious people.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:15:51 +0000

Thanks for the info.

That’s 12 years max. I had seen different sentences under prison mayor so I was confused.

By: Tim Boylan

Tim Boylan — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:13:11 +0000

The law says “shall suffer the penalty of prison mayor in its maximum period”. That is 12 years.
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Prision mayor
From Wiki Law Project (Philippines)

An afflictive penalty with a duration of six (6) years and one (1) day to twelve (12) years.

http://phbar.org/wikilaw/index.php?title=Prision_mayor

By: Rusty

Rusty — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:45:24 +0000

Yeah the parents can get radical over little league. Or did you say softball, either way.

I think most of the time, common sense will be applied to this law. I think estranged spouses posed the biggest threat with regards to abuse of this law.

So far it has been used to get the kids out of the situation they are in. It allows the authorities to go in and remove the children.

By: erik cable

erik cable — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:53:46 +0000

Wow
I never read such along battle of wits before.Point counter point!
In the end from what I can understand from the discussion of the law and the way it shall be inforced,is up to the police.
If any of you had kids playing softball at the age of 10 and under.
The umpire is alone on the field with 20 kids.
While the parents are confined to the outside.
I was an umpire for 9 years and there were always some parents that would have loved to call the cops on me!
I never made a bad call!

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:17:46 +0000

Hi George,

I’m a bit more positive about the PI than it seems you are from this one post. The Kano price is no big deal, people will get as much as they think they can, and that’s true of just about all of us.

I don’t feel hunted at all. All the Filipino that I know are good people, the only expcetion I would make on that is one that lives in the USA who pulled some crap on me and my first rental here. Put me in a smaller apartment than what I was suppose to get.

I paid too much for getting locks changed but it was still very cheap. I should have haggled with him but I didn’t feel like it. Haggling is pretty much expected.. I get things a little cheaper when I send the maids out to buy things, like rice but its not a lot cheaper.

No one has tried to rip me off. I have good reason to be concerned about this law. Perhaps one day I’ll be able to write about it. This law could be misused in my case. The government seems to be leary of actually prosecuting under this law. Charges have been dropped against Gary Lee Rohn one of the men charged on Bantayan Island.

The argument here was trying to get Roy to understand this law applies to all places. That was confirmed in a news papaer article this week. I wrote about that on http://heyjoe.ph

There’s nothing i need to calm down about, the potential misuse of this law is clearly there. Its not something I’m overely worried about though. Worried yes but I’ll deal with whatever comes my way. I am a survivor.

By: George

George — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:38:24 +0000

Hello Men,
I have been reading this agument and Find it most interesting. This is a Story I will Tell you I have been in court three Years because I had some property awarded to me and retained by my X in-laws. I began by having a in chambers meeting with the defendants.. Who are enjoying my stuff even to this date. the Judge said to me at that meeting with my lawyer at my side “”what is the problem?? You are rich they are poor..” finally I was able to get this judge removed from the case.. I fired the lawyer and got another. let me tell you from personal experiance in the court.. If you are not a Philippno most likely you are going to have a very hard time getting Justice. Here there is no equal justice. If you think there is you are decived. I live and have retired here because I have limited income. But let me tell you just go out and buy a 1 Peso candy from a vendor in Cebu if you are not Philippno they will try to double the price at least. It used to realy make me angry Now I just except these things as part of the Price of living here where I can afford. Fact there is not equality under the Law period for guys like you here. Just get over it and be careful. It is a game here and you are the one being hunted. As I said get over it, accept it or I just have to pack up and leave..

By: Rusty

Rusty — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:20:06 +0000

Hi Andy, it is better to know about the law. Yeah, i don’t think I”d take a child into a situation like that. Even though innocent and helpful, you’re putting yourself in a dangerous situation. Because a few foreign pedophiles have put the rest of us under suspicion.

There is a guy here in Bogo City that hangs around with kids all the time. I’ve seen him once, he rides a mini-bike. That seems kind of child like.

I know of a second grader that said she was his girlfriend.

It may all be perfectly innocent but the towns people are talking about it. I look for him to be arrested. It does look like the kinds of things pedophiles do but I don’t know anything about his situation. I’m certain he needs to alter his behavior.

By: andy

andy — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:01:32 +0000

Roy Hello and I read moct of all your comments and like most if not all. Not this though. If I had read this post before the last time I went there I would have been in constance fear. You see everytime I was sent to the store or mall Josey’s 6 year old want to go with me. She knew I would take her to Mc D’s or buy her what she wanted. That law reads public or private. Is a mall consisered public? is 6 considered under 12? I am glad I did not read this before I came last time. The worst fact of the law there is a filipina or filipino camplained, as a blue eyed tall American I would have no defence at all. STUPID wording of a otherwise good protecting law. Perverts need to be in jail. Nice people with not bad intent but buy a burger and fries do not. Whoops just so you Know I still like you very much Roy and will live there shortly.