As a very frequent traveler, one of the things that I find incredibly annoying is airport security. Though you may initially think I’m picking on the Philippines before reading this, I am not… In fact I believe that the Philippines has hit on one critical aspect of airport security that our most benevolent masters and unquestioned rulers in the United States (Papers, please!) have missed. In fact, I’m fairly certain, nearly 100%, that there will be comments to this article written along the lines of “Well, if it just keeps one person safe!” or “They crashed those planes, 9/11, never forget!” or the old jewel “If you have nothing to hide, then what’s the big deal?”. The big deal is an issue of waste. The big deal is an issue of real security, rather than theater. The big deal is an issue of control… by those holding the guns. The big deal is that a giant system of politics as usual has developed and is getting bigger every day.
Since moving to the Philippines, I have probably been in and out of NAIA at least 200 times. Easily that amount. I have traveled to just about every corner of the world since then, and seen security that ranges from truly draconian (Colombia, USA, UK) to highly professional (Singapore, Canada, Japan, China, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand) to idiotic and asinine (Germany, India, USA, UK) to begging the question “What security?” (Indonesia, Yemen). Therefore, I speak from experience as a passenger who can tell the difference, no matter how much those in charge refuse to acknowledge due to “National Security”. I also believe that very little that is being done does much at all to keep you safe.
Airport Security in the Post 9-11 World
Case in point. The TSA was established in the United States, in theory, to professionalize airport security and eliminate the lack of unified standards between agencies. Has it done that? I say, no, in no way, shape or form. In 2002, I was leaving Ft. Lauderdale (FLL) going, I think, to Chicago. I was told (barked at) by a “professional” TSA screener to remove my wallet (nothing metallic) and put it on the belt. I did so without saying anything. I go through the metal detector, get to the other side of the belt and reach for my wallet. I was screamed at by the “professional”, “Don’t touch that! It’s sterile!” He then proceeded to lift $20 out of my wallet and place it into his pocket. I said, very irritated, “Who’s screening the screeners? I saw what you just did?” He then stated, “Are you saying I stole?” I said, “YES!” I was then threatened with arrest by the Ft. Lauderdale police if I didn’t shut my mouth, and told, “If you have a complaint, fill in this form”. I said, “Fine, do whatever the **** it is that you do!”. I was then informed that it is a felony to say “****” in a “sterile” area. The police were called over, and I was taken to a room off the side, searched, and questioned for thirty minutes. My protests about their thieving “professional” were ignored, and I was informed that I would be arrested if I said anything else. No choice as to course of action. I was flying for work.
Airport Security
Now, you could make the “One bad apple” argument. Or, that I should have known better than to mouth off. However, how many people would keep their cool in the face of blatant thieving, in front of your eyes. What would you do? Politely ask for a complaint form? Say, “Well gee, they’re keeping us safe!”? I don’t think so. Since that time, I tend not to believe what I am told.
Anyone who has recently traveled in the US (or even worse, the UK) knows the drill: Get into an interminable queue, have your documents checked by someone who couldn’t spot a fake ID any better than your average 7-11 clerk. Get screamed at to remove your shoes. Get screamed at to keep you OWN boarding pass in YOUR hand. Get screamed at to remove your laptop. Get screamed at to keep your ID out. Get screamed at ad infinitum. Wait while they pull aside grandma to make absolutely certain that it was her pacemaker setting off the alarm. Get questioned about anything “unusual” in your belongings. Seems that in the United States, carrying cash can get you questioned. Anything over $1,000 or so. Are they searching for terrorists? No. They are looking for drugs. They are looking for tax cheats. They are looking for an excuse to search you. All in the name of “security”.
My problem with all of this is that the potential for abuse of authority is rife, and the authority is being abused. How many of the “terrorist” incidents were prevented? Well, the public is never told, under the guise of “National Security”. Are liquids a real threat? Who really knows for certain? We are told, “Yes”, and expected to obey. Don’t obey, you don’t fly. Well, in the US, that may not be an insurmountable problem. In an island nation, what are you going to do? Swim?
Some of the most nasty-tempered security people in the world work at Heathrow. Arrive at Heathrow from the United States and you will face a queue when you transit that can easily last several hours. I vividly remember one time landing and entering a transit queue (Which in itself is idiotic, since you are coming from an area that is supposedly already “sterile”). At least 2,000 people waiting. No aircon, and people were hot, tired, cranky, and missing their connections. The Heathrow “professionals” were wandering around barking orders, and people were getting angry. I mean REALLY angry. Why? Only ONE machine working with around six more standing right next to it, unused. At least two dozen “professionals” standing around with their hands in their pockets. About two weeks later, I transited Heathrow again, and the same queue and situation. What did BAA do to address the problem? Simple. They put up signs that stated that profanity in the secure area was an offense that merits prison. The passengers are the REAL problem. Not abuse by those in charge.
I’m a believer that airport security has become CYA for the politicians. If something happens, they can then say, “Well, look at all we’ve done.” Travel and freedom of movement are essential to a free society. Controlling movement is the first step to controlling people. It is not terrorists they are after. They are after YOU, and reminding YOU that YOU are under their control. A look at the TSA website will show the number of drug busts made at airport security. What does busting someone with a joint in their pocket have to do with terrorism? I wouldn’t have as much of a problem with all of this if the various governments just told the truth and that the security actually did any good. But we are fed lies, and I don’t think it does anyone any good at all. I’m just waiting for the day when we all are forced to travel naked with no baggage.
So, after this rant, to the Philippines. NAIA is never much fun, even under the best of circumstances. However, I can say that I’ve always been treated respectfully by security here, which is saying far more than in the US or, especially, the UK. There are no idiots marching along the queues barking orders and screaming at people. Yes, some of the procedures here are nonsensical also (the thing with the shoes, a printed “e-ticket” to get to the counter), yet if you are treated with respect, the idiocy is much easier to swallow. I’ve never felt like a criminal at NAIA. I’ve never felt that anyone was going to steal from me or arrest me there. I’ve never been threatened there. This is the key. The Philippines does what needs to be done, but they do it politely. Put some dignity into the process and people won’t lose their cool.
John Miele is a Citizen of the World, having spent time in many locations around the globe. Currently, he finds himself in Manila, but travels throughout the Philippines. John joined the Live in the Philippines Web Magazine in mid-2008.
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Interesting as i have been in Law enforcement in the US for 25yrs. In the TSA areas typically airports in the US have surveillance cameras that would capture such theft as you state. Humm!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony: Just stating what happened. The way that the TSA is set up, what good does a complaint do, cameras or no? If you protest, you miss your flight.
You are right about Heathrow, they employ some of the most obnoxious, rude, unreasonable and “jobsworth” people that I have ever come across in any airport in the world even Moscow in the 70′s was a more pleasant place to go through and Hong Kong, Manila and Davao for customer service are way ahead . Do you feel that safety is enhanced by all that bullying? No , just frustration, delay and anger are the products.
John: They have to rank among the stupidest, most useless people that I have ever encountered.
Hi John – Good article. I understand your rant as well. The reality of airport security after 9/11 is that airport security dig deep for anything they can. Whether it is your luggage, your personal transparent plastic for meds, or formulas. They would check thoroughly and then they’d grope you and ask that you remove even you’re shoes and it’s feels like you’re being violated. And especially for girl, it is awful and then everyone’s looking at your and waiting. And when you utter profanities like **** they get really really mean.
Sugar: The real prize was when they were making women drink from their kids’ bottles. Utterly asinine.
Sorry John, my grammar suxx. Hope you understand my comment. I have an aversion to airports. But I like to travel. Good day to you.
WoW John,some rant today,ha ha lol.
I cannot comment on Heathrow,as i never need to use it,i never really have any problems at Manchester.
Mind you,UK northerners are renowned for being more friendly than our southern neighbor’s,Lol.
regards,Chas.
Chas: I would agree that Manchester is much easier. I avoid Heathrow at all costs. Funny how Stansted, which normally has the discount flights (more people who travel infrequently), is always easier. However, I remember being reprimanded by security at passport control there for entering the queue where the sign said to enter. When I pointed it out to security, I was told not to pay attention to the signs. Imagine that!
John,
That sign issue sounds like a “Monty Python” sketch,lol.
Chas: Not far from it!
John
You know a little common courtesy and respect would help the process go alot better. Its really embarrassing to me, especially being from the law enforcement field, to see someone being treated like you have. It really gives the US a black eye. The US should be the example for the rest of the world. Good job brother, hope things improve at airports for you.
Randy: That is the point, and it costs nothing.
Hi
Came across a Jobsworthy at Manchester the other week on our way out to Davao. Mind you she may have been an Offcumdon. I think those sort of jobs attract bossy folk.
Manchester was the only place where bottles had to be on show. Never even asked at other airports both going out and coming home.
Good manners cost nothing, pity a lot of Brits have forgotten how to use them.
Marjorie
Sorry to hear that marjorie,but there is always the odd person,when given officialdom,it goes to their heads,its the same the world over.
Showing bottle contents has been in operation for some time,personally,i have no problem with that.
I always try to checkout the individual Airports website beforehand,then you can see what their procedures are.
regards,Chas.
Chas: The liquids are prohibited just about everywhere I can think of now. When the ban first went into effect, I was in France. Needless to say, a number of the French security staff were helping themselves to plenty of fine wine that was confiscated from travellers.
Hi Chasdv
I like Manchesters way of making money even if for charity. There are two bags in a ball for £1, but only one bag per person can be used.
Yes, the bottle thing caused a smile to my daughter in law and I last year. We had both put our things in clear bags, but at Bangkok the girl had to take a couple out and put them in another bag although we were both carrying under the allotted amount. She was told to put bottles in clear bags so she did do, even if there was no need.
My problem was I had forgotten about my hand cleaning liquid. But, I have since found out a single bottle does not need to be in a bag.
Your right officialdom does go to some folks heads.
Marjorie
Marjorie: They do indeed.
Good posting JohnM
buti think itis a little over the top mate this“security itis now over 4 years that i have been over seas at all so i know i will seee some new things this time i fly but it is over the top just the same……… but thats United States big brother for u…..lol
Peterjoy: hank you…. Sorry if too over the top.
Good one John…love it….and also what good are surveillance cameras that would benifit the person (you) in what you experinced with them ripping you off on a $20.00…If they are that crooked to do that then of course some one could just say…oh!, we do not have anything like that on our surveillance cameras…and of course because of national security we can not divulge whats on the tapes. The people of the USA have become lazy and gave way to much control over to goverment in many different ways. Heres a exmaple…I have a bank that I bank at and they have all my personal information on file and have had for near 20 years….the last year or so…about every 3 months the teller at the windows wants to know what my street address is?? I always say…You have that information , why are you asking me that…Her response…Home land security…hahaha…so as sad as is was in 2001…the after glow will be with us for ever in many different ways, under that disguise that we need to do all these things to protect the people…but what they are really saying is we are doing these things so we can slowley erode the freedom you as a person have and so we the goverment can have more control. Its not only the air ports as you said…it is getting into everything…any way enjoyed your post as always
Dan: Thank you. Yeah, the banks are another instance, and one which expats are likely to face. I had much more trouble in the States this year after BOA supposedly straightened things out last year (I even wrote an article about it).
John, this may sound way out there, but I think the day will come here in the USA where you will only be able to take a certain amount of your money out of your bank account and only be able to have a certain amount on your person. Yes..I remember your article you wrote some time back..it was a good one. Yet those that are in the entitlement line will be better off than those of us that try to do things the right way….Untill..there is no more money for the entilements or what ever money there is is worthless…The next few years will be interesting for sure…..
Don’t you just love NAIA about the fact that after going through security 3 times, you get to sit in the Gate area, and if you need to step across the hall to the bath roon you have to go through security again? The Security Guard tells you that the US told them to do it like that, but I’ve never seen anything near as demanding in US airports. Once you get into a secure area you’re supposed to be in a secure area.
Correction: The over-security issue occurrs on the Phillipine Airline portion of the airport, and not in the gate area for airlines such as Delta.
John: I think that is a PAL rule… However, Delta requires the secondary screening area also (I made the mistake of flying them to Japan… Never again).
When Delta was still NW a few years ago the secondary screening was crazy – those in business class (thank goodness I was on it) got their belongings x rayed, the ones in economy – hand search!
But then in PAL if you go to USA secondary screening is someone uses their gloved hands to go over the inside of your shoes EWWWW!
Cherylann: Funny, I was in biz and got hand searched by them. More utter nonsense!
LOL! Too bad… I do hate people rifling through my things who cares if they are gloved, blech!
Cheryll Ann
I agree with you totally! Especially when you have alot of personal things and they don’t put them back the way they were before they went through them.
Hey John,
One person working while others are standing idle watching is a good job if you can get it…Must be a Union job.
Hudson: My app is in the mail!
I fully empathize with you John, I have avoided going on short trips just so I don’t have to put up with the crap. Take my shoes off, treated worse than a criminal, what about the guy who had explosives in his shorts??? Don’t we have to take those of as well??? Or my favorite, go thru security at Detroit metro…nonstop to Tokyo 12 HR flight and we deplane and go thru security again to reboard the same plane??!!! WTF! Several trips ago a pal of mine who had a warrant out on him (don’t ask!) and I go thru customs entry in Detroit….He waltz’s thru and I get the full inspection!! Now they have roving teams of 2 AFTER you pass thru into the ‘sterile’ area for random patdowns, which I had done last domestic trip. They call it security…I call it control….personally I’d rather take my chances with the terrorist for I fear my government far far more
Brian: I didn’t know about the roaming teams. Funny thing about “sterile” areas… If they were doing their jobs the first time, then it wouldn’t be necessary. Like you, I dislike government intrusion. None of that has any impact on safety.
Brian,
Thats crazy having to deplane and go through security again. What the hell is that. And the pal with the warrant thats funny. So many unneccessary things and i work in law enforcement. No wonder flights are never on time.
Hi John – I agree wholeheartedly with your comments about being treated with respect when you arrive at NAIA. I’m dismayed by your comments regarding arriving at Heathrow however. Personally I never use Heathrow when travelling back to the UK I prefer to use a hub in Europe then enter the UK via a provincial airport. I think the problem of arriving at Heathrow is due to the security being outsourced and to the cheapest bidder for the contract.
I can honestly say that I have never heard of a security officer removing money from a passengers wallet in front of them at a UK airport as happened to you in the US. I read recently about British Airlines in general complaining about the draconian methods of security being used at airports and some of it being totally uneccessary in their opinion, however the article went on to explain that it is the US who are dictating what is and not required to be done worldwide with regards to security.
There is no excuse for rudness, as if we don’t travel they i.e. security staff don’t have a job.
I’m sure life is much more comfortable for any traveller when greeted with a cheery smile when someone is interfering with their private parts all in the line of keeping us safe.
At the end of the the day rudness aside, I would rather be safe than sorry.
Regards.
Jim.
Jim: I do as you do… Fly into the continent for transit instead of Heathrow (unless I’m going to London.) I too would rather be safe… However, I don’t think that much of what is being done makes anyone safer. In fact, I would even say that it creates new problems associated with long queues (people congregated together before the secure area) and short tempers.
I live in SIngapore so have to admit that Changi has the best immigration/security clearance. But how effective, not so sure as not many people are taking things out of SG. But into from say India/China, where security is lax, there is a big issue.
I also travel to the US a lot, and have not had too many issues. i know the process so just plan for it. Not sure how I would handle theft, but dont think it would happen now as there are too many eyes from cameras and others.
I also have lived in London, there the immigration and security are probably the slowest I had ever been in. As I travelled weekly for business, unless you flew biz class and could skip the queue, then you had a long wait. Frankfurt was just as bad as you cleared security and then another security for the BA flights! Never missed travelling in Europe!
Anyway, my biggest gripe about NAIA is only with Term 1 and the boarding area prior to going through security. Waiting to get into the terminal and then waiting for the counter just sucks.
Anyway, Happy Holiday Travels to those over the next few months!
Don
Don: If Singapore can do it with one of the busiest airports in the world (and nearby threats), then there are no excuses that I find acceptable.
As to London, the business class queue was often BA only. If you were flying Cathay / American (as I was), it was “wait like everyone else”.
Just a quick comment on this. In April of this year I was at Kalibo airport with my fiancee and were sitting in our seats getting ready for airplane to take off when my girl took her lighter out of her pocket. I asked her how she got thew security with that and they never stopped her. She also had finger nail clippers in her pocket. In the US that would never happen these days. I have never seen airport security that bad as is in Kalibo.
Larry: In the Philippines, for some reason, lighters are allowed at NAIA (as in most of the world now.) unless you are going to the States (Even though the US now allows them). They are prohibited in the provincial airports. I did note that the security is far less stringent in the smaller airports here, though they’ve confiscated my lighter about 10 times at TUG. Funny, though, if you want to go outside for a smoke there, security will give it back as long as you return it to confiscation before going back in.
Also note that pre 9/11, many small airports in the States did not even require security for commuter flights. (I used to have to fly to Bemidji, MN, Hibbing, MN, and Marquette, MI very frequently).
Oh well at least you have never hand carried a dog, my dog GOT patted down on NJ to CA flight, NO KIDDING! they asked me to step to the side then called a lady and said to her DOG PAT DOWN!
I tried to hand my dog over but I guess they were scared of a shih tzu? So asked me to hold on to Teddy while they went through his hair (what exactly I was supposed to be hiding in his hair I don’t know) Teddy was in FULL show coat at that time and dripping in hair.
Yeah sure they x rayed his bag but obviously I took him out first.
To be fair to TSA I was carrying my niece in SFO airport and they let me cut through the line they opened the ropes in the line and told me to go up front and just let me breeze through as I was a carrying a 1 year old.
TSA in SFO is also friendly to old ladies in wheelchairs – a family friend needed to get home a few years back and so ended up with me so I can watch her on flight – she was in a wheelchair and TSA also let us go through quickly.
Now Japan transit is fairly easy. I even walked through with a whole bottle of bottled water (everyone else had to throw theirs) as I guess the security check people felt sorry for my dog as the water bottle had a spout attached to it for dog to drink from.
I have been to Heathrow airport, security was not real bad when I was there.
I like Japan, Thailand and Hong Kong Security – no hassle, hehehe!
Mainland China security is FREAKISH- they asked my father for his lighter but guess I what I walked away with my lighter in my bag, then my dad was bitching how he was supposed to light up I said oh they didn’t take mine, there ya go, LOL!
Cherylann: Searching the dog?
Japan has always been very professional and normally they are quick. Same thing in China, if a bit strict. Note, the lighters in China are only at some airports. Chinese airporst also have a bin of the confiscated lighters at the exit to baggage claim, you surrendered one, so you are free to take one back. The smoking rooms in airports where lighters are taken often have lighters inside them, too.
Yes Japan’s good! I was there in August and breezed through security but my main problem was PAL was at airport at 7:30 am for 9am flight guess what I was in airport ALL DAY flight was moved to something like 9:30pm GRRRRRRR! &*(&*(&(*^&(*&^&*!
I don’t know about the lighters in smoking room, I don’t smoke I carry lighters to burn my hu or holy paper.
I think that was Beijing airport where they took his lighter.
BTW have you been to Xiamen? Their bathrooms in airport are fabulous something like German toilets with all those new fangled technology, yet go into their city they have squat toilets, WAILLLLLLLLLL!
John
After TSA reads your blog, and they will, you just may find yourself on the “No Fly list”. Many others have found out how the TSA retaliates by those using their freedom of speech to voice their concerns about this out of control agency. The TSA has actually passed the IRS as the most hated agency in the USA. Not a single thing the TSA does today would have prevented 9-11. As you say, it is to condition the populace to fear government and to exert control. It is a shame that 2 million travelers per day in the USA must succumb to this unpatriotic and illegal agency. I fear the TSA much more than I fear any terrorist.
Lloyd: I have no doubt that someone at TSA reads and searches the Net. They may put me on some list somewhere, but more than likely they would lump me in with the “tinfoil hat” crazies. It is far easier to discredit or simply ignore someone. I don’t claim to be a security expert, nor have I listed any answers or suggested alternative. I am commenting as a member of the travelling public that regularly puts up with the hassles that are imposed on everyone, collectively. As someone who travels frequently, it quickly becomes apparent that what is going on now is not the solution to safe transportation. Where does it all end? In principle, I don’t have a problem with things like whole body scanners (If someone wants to see my old, out of shape naked body, have fun!). I have a problem with a lack of courtesy and common human decency that is imposed by a government simply because it has the power to do so. The TSA actually started a blog to supposedly communicate with the public. However, reading through it, when people ask legitimate questions, they are given the same government line with very few answers. My problem with all of this is that there is close to zero accountability for anyone in that agency.
Hi John,
What a rant! You express yourself better when you’re on fire.
I have my own travel advisory on certain countries. #1 on my list is the US. For all its pretentious security measures, and imposition of its s.o.p’s on others, I doubt if US airlines actually screen all checked in bags that go in the plane’s underbelly. (I believe Frankfurt is another one that is not 100% compliant.) So much for air travel, and airport security.
Alex
Alex: I highly doubt it also. Airport security is much more the “flavor of the week”. After these last mail bombs, it’s cargo. Then someone will figure out something new and a whole bunch of restrictions will follow. Then those restrictions are eased. Simple patter, if one takes the time to observe.
Oh yes, I sure do agree, at least about the TSA and Philippine airport security! I do not have your wider range of experience. But TSA… what a joke! The un-employable; unionized and working for the government, frisking children and grandmothers, carefully choosen by the duck-duck-goose method and not checking out the swathy young man in the scull-cap. No logic involved, just do it. If the government ever wants to come up with something like a Gestapo, they’ve already got the personel. At least in the Philippines they DO use profiling! At least at the malls… But certainly not at the Delta waiting area. No.
Since it is like looking for a needle in a hay stack, it only makes sense to profile. They SHOULD wave through the little kids and clearly non-terrorist types and check out the people in flowing robes, haji hats and face-coverings. I know it is a bother for them, as they are probably innocent as well, but it saves time and makes sense.
Lola: I’ve really never had a problem with security here. Profiling will never happen in the States… TSA was simply a power grab, plain and simple. The interest of the government is control, rather than real security.
Lola: As a side note, what prompted this rant was an AP article last week on Yahoo and the utterly stupid comments (more than 7,000) gravitating towards the “Well, if it keeps us safe!” and “Why is it a big deal?” point of view. Americans simply allowed themselves to hand over their freedom. What is so disturbing is that so many people don’t realize that has already happened.
Americans have been taught to believe that the government can and will take care of them. All we have to do is stop thinking, stop asking questions and do as we are told (for our own good). Scary things that happen: bombs, gun accidents, car accidents, pool accidents, toy accidents, flu outbreaks and so on are just the opportunity needed for the strident voices to tell us the government needs to step in and protect us.
But on the other side, why are innocent people being hassled and frisked in airports all over the world, while immigration laws and security is not really being enforced? The terrorists who DID do the damage had lived in the USA and gone to school there. No one seems to be checking visas and passports at hospitals and schools or mosques. Are terrorists perpetually in transit? Is the airport the only place they can be found? This doesn’t make sense to me.
hi americanlola,
I really like judge judy’s favorite phrase.
“If things doesn’t make sense, then there’s no truth in it”
American Lola
I agree with you immigration laws are a joke here. I see it everyday at my job. Thats by far a bigger problem then terrorists at the airport. The terorists are already in the country.
Hi Lola,
Your first two sentences,make it sound like a communist state,Lol.
John:
All this security stuff in the US is nothing more than dog and pony show. All they are doing it for is to put on a show that big sis is somehow protecting us from terrorism. Bulls%$# it’s harrasment if someone is going to do something bad nothing is really going to stop them.
But the Public is the ones who are going to pay the price. Bet Big SIS doesn’t get shearched before boarding her plane.
Bruce: I always believed that the government officials should be subjected to the same rules, including the President.
“I’m just waiting for the day when we all are forced to travel naked with no baggage”.
Oh, you naughty boy you!
Ha Ha Jim,well they already have Xray machines that view you naked,Lol.
Chas: I was at a maritime show several years ago when Flir debuted their camera that could see through clothing. Needless to say, it was pointed at quite a few of the better looking booth babes at the show.
Hi john i have only travelled internationally a few times ,my first was a trip to the uk in 1988 ,we landed at changi and went to get of the plane (down the boarding stairsd in those daysI and my father changed his mind and wanted to get back on ,not so to the gn weilding singaporian female gaurd no return to aircraft and push with rifle to us hmm wernt no terroists then, anyway many yaers pased and my next adventure was to go to changi on my way to davao well what a change ,because i didnt know how to fill out a declaration i had to ask and then fill it out got it checked by an info person and proceeded to customs yahoo six customs officers and no one in sight i found a hole between flights so i breezed through ,when i left davoa i may have gone there in my jocks and socks because i was not left with much more on belt shoes ect of one english fellow argued that the exit fee should not apply to his two year old daughter but they would not budge i think it was 500 pesos each hmmm i saw him later in changi but he shouldnt have argued almost missed his flight ,here in australia they are fairly strict but they have a way of doing it so as not to intimidate you and they do try to get you thropugh as quick as possible but security is paramount and if it takes a bit longer isay suck it up i would rather take an extrsa ten minutes in line than a lifetime dead where they didnt check properly some irate passenger
chris
Chris: There is still no excuse for lack of common courtesy, common sense, and respect, regardless of the reason. Dead or not.
The so -called security checks have little relevance to prevention of terrorism – as B.Michels says it is everything to do with the politicians showing that they are doing “something”. Taking a crew members nail clippers when he has access to a large crash axe in the cockpit during flight is total stupidity. I have been in the airline business for more than 40 years and am glad that I am nearing the end of my working life as “security” has made life almost intolerable.On one occasion at Amsterdam I was asked to put my hearing aid through the x-ray machine then the female security officer became angry when I could not hear her!For the most part they are a bunch of little Hitlers with an overblown sense of their own importance. Sadly I can only agree that Heathrow is one of the most unpleasant of airports to use and like Jim I try to come in and out of the UK through one of the regional airports.
Bryan: Remember the pilot with the nail clippers in the States. He was told, “You might take over the plane” when he asked why he was being relieved of his “weapon”. His response, “In about 5 minutes, that’s just what I’m going to do.”
John – this happened to a Captain known to me – he was so annoyed he went to the aircraft and returned with the crash axe to show the security personnel. He left our company some time later and now flies freighters – he is a fellow countryman of yours and a real character.
Bryan: Wish I could have seen that!
agreed. have you tried any israeli airports. i went through eilat pre 9/11 and it was long queues but dignified and professional as in the philippines. i think not letting anyone into the terminal who isnt flying is a good move there, it cuts congestion and helps the general air of calm
I agree.
Paul: In Isreal, they are at least polite (with a much greater threat there)
Hi John
I have to say that I think you are exaggerating the situation in Heathrow! I have traveled through there many times and yes there are security queues , but I have never been screamed at or barked at as you suggest, the staff have always been courteous. I am sure I would scream right back if they did! LOL
Stay safe
Malcolm (UK)
Malcolm: Things may have gotten better there recently, but I don’t feel I’m exaggerating. Last few times to the UK have been Gatwick and Stansted, which are much less confusion. (The connection I missed due to security was to Abu Dhabi… 1 flight per day on BA. You miss it, and you are stuck in London for a day.)
John I realize why I don’t like to travel by air anymore-you summed it all up very well. I imagine you felt better after writing this-kind of theraputic getting this off your chest. Ron
Ron: Yep, felt better!
John, I live about 5 minutes from Heathrow, though I haven’t flown as much as you but I probably have through Heathrow. I have never had a problem leaving or entering there, if someone was rude to me, believe me I would reply. I have always found them courteous and helpful….sorry to disagree…. maybe it’s just because you are an American (yes I am guessing there).
Gerry
Gerry: Yes, American. Transiting through Heathrow is a nightmare. One of the most inefficient air travel situations in the world. After the last incident there, I’ve avoided it as much as possible.
John, I live about 5 minutes from Heathrow, though I haven’t flown as much as you but I probably have through Heathrow. I have never had a problem leaving or entering there, if someone was rude to me, believe me I would reply. I have always found them courteous and helpful….sorry to disagree…. maybe it’s just because you are an American (yes I am guessing there)….
Gerry
If there is indeed a plan to counter terrorism it must have been made by completely inept idiots seeing that every single measure taken has been counter productive. My belief is there is a very different agenda being played out, which is to keep the ordinary people fearful enough of these elusive Terrorists to surrender all their rights as citizens to the powers that be.
Who has benefited by 9/11 and its aftermath? It certainly isn’t the Muslims, so maybe it’s time we take a sharp look at those that DO benefit, to find the perpetrators. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but that’s standard procedure in crime solving.
Goran: I’m certain there is, even if it is nothing more than CYA.
We recently flew out of Panma to the USA. It was quick, and effecient. This included every carry on hand inspected.
If you want a real nightmare. Try sailing into Miami, and meet the TSA on steroids. The Coast Guard, or local police on the water…….i2f
Imagine: Miami isn’t any fun in the airport there either. Hard to avoid in the States if flying to the Caribbean. That airport takes the rudeness crown in the USA, in my opinion.
As to sea, yeah, the USCG is not known for their cheerful dispositions.
Hi John,
Glad you mentioned Heathrow as I just emerged from Terminal 5 there two days ago and it was a horror. First we emerged from a “secure” plane to be fed through the roped off mazes of security one more time, like lemmings. At one corner of the maze were security personnel stopping and questioning people about water bottles, which were then confiscated. In another corner was a lady with a machine which tested cell phones for explosives. Finally entering the escalator to the upper story, we were herded through more mazes to emerge at the screening place where we deposited our coats, bags, carry-on baggage, and laptops into individual plastic trays. Large signs said that we may have to remove shoes, etc. “Please remove laptop from case and place in a separate tray.” ” Please remove your belt.” “Please lift your feet so we can scan your shoes.” It was insane! One poor man had many small bottles of liquids and creams in his pack. An inspector dumped them all out on the counter and then called all his buddies over to show how stupid the guy was for having so many liquids. I don’t think the poor guy spoke or understood English. It was a madhouse there. Not rude – just insanity!
John in Austria,
I have to say it is a similar scenario if you fly into Singapore (transit) from Davao city,i suspect it is because the plane has come from Mindanao,as there is less hassle transiting out of Singapore to Davao City.
Chas: Singapore routinely does that on flights arriving from certain destinations (you are right about Mindanao), normally when specific threats are made. They are Philippines, Indonesia, India, Pakistan. This is arrivals as well as transits. At least they only do it after threats are made.
John: Terminal 5 was supposed to make things easier… I have a smoking in the airport trick there if you need it next time through!
John, I for one have travelled to many countries as well, and yes most all of the comments here are ones that i would agree with as well. I had family killed on 9/11 as well as all my other brothers and sisters that i have had a career with. We feel any precautions that the TSA, USA, or any other agencies my take in regards to the safety of the Citizens of the USA is acceptable without regard for any or most inconveniences that the public may have to endure. That really is the bottom line. I grin and bear it like anyone else, except i usually have my wife and 8 kids with me. Two of which i might add are very young and which is a challenge for us to navigate through the checkpoints which are in place for our safety and well being.
Anthony: Sorry to hear that you had relatives killed, but I truly believe that nothing that has been done post 9/11 would have either prevented it or made it more difficult on the perpetrators. I would support security actions if they actually did any good, yet there has been so much secrecy and so many lies that I simply do not believe that the government has the public’s interest at heart (security or otherwise). I’m not one of those conspiracy theory people either… What has developed is a gigantic bureaucracy with no accountability – not security.
Also, treating passengers with courtesy and respect cost nothing and would go a long way towards making inconvenience easier to bear. There really is no excuse in this regard.
As someone who has flown quite a bit in the past few years I have to agree that the US airports can be a pain. At the other end of the spectrum is NAIA. It seems the reason that there are numerous checks is because a high percentage of security personnel are so lax at their job. I watched in the main lobby a few months ago as the baggage xray screener stood to chat with the personnel screener. As they were chatting numerous people and bags went through without observation of any kind. Let’s hope the inside checkpoint was better ran.
Tony: Yes, it can be lax at NAIA, but you are treated as a human being. I’ve also noticed at NAIA that the closer to the gates, the more stringent the checks.
Interesting article John. So true … However, I think you need to repackage the article and submit it to every newspaper and website in America and the UK to see how many of them will publish it. Naturally, you might need to do so anomalously as you would probably find yourself on the “no-fly” list.
I’m preying no would-be terrorist is found with an explosive device concealed inside his private back door, if you know what I mean. If that happens, taking off our shoes at the airport will be like a minor inconvenience. From then on, we will all have to go through a rectal exam before boarding!
Rich: I don’t think I would end up on the list… I’ve really not said anything that is either seditious or threatening, and I’m pretty honest and open about my thoughts elswhere that I’ve written on the web. If I ended up on such a list, it would only prove my point that security has absolutely nothing to do with real threats and everything to do with political power.
Realistically, if the TSA were to read this and take my statements seriously (not that I have any power, authority, or special knowledge), things might improve. It really is difficult to believe what you are told when secrecy is so rampant. Additionally, as I’ve stated above, common courtesy costs nothing.
Great article, John. I was flying back to Manila last year, originating in Austin, TX. I happened to be wearing my brand new Texas Longhorns hoodie sweatshirt. It was a bit large and bulky, but I find them more comfortable like that. As I approached the metal detector I was told to remove my sweatshirt. I replied that I couldn’t (as it was the only top I was wearing). I was told that I would have to be searched then. Two officers came ober and collected my things ( I was told to put everything down and touch nothing). They lead me away to a corner and actually asked me if I prefered to step behind a screen before removing my shirt, to get patted down.
You may be onto something with the suggestion that we may one day have to travel naked without luggage.
Melissa: Yeah, it’s nonsense. Same thing that in some places you need to remove your laptop from the case, and in others they just sail right through.
A good and very appropriate article John. Last year at JFK Intl. New York I, and others out of curiousity wanted to see our luggage going through the TSA check and the end of one of the check in counters for an Asian based airline. We were ” Barked At ” by TSA screeners to ” Go Away ” and ” Don’t Stand Here “. We were all well awqay from the roped off area where the luggage was being screened. I kept watching from a distance when I saw one of the screeners pick up a large cardboard box and ” SLAM ” it down onto the hard floor. It did not appear that the box was all that heavy when the screener picked it up, he raised it above his head and slamed it down to the floor as hard as he could ! It was not my box but it aggrivated me that our taxpayers money is being spent for what I consider intentional abuse to peoples belongings. It reminded me of the ” Luggage Gorillas ” featured on the Samsonite commercials years ago.
I have just returned home from another fantastic vacation in Iligan City Philippines and was at NAIA about 24 hours ago. Prior to my first visit to The Philippines I had read on a hard copy travel guide about so many ” problems ” and Rip-Offs visitors may expect at this airport. Either the book was totally off the wall or there have been many improvements at NAIA since that book was published.
I got out of a metered taxi ( arranged for by the hotel I was at for a one night stay in Makati ) as the driver removed my luggage an attendant ( properly ID’d ) politely gave me a push cart. I loaded my things on it and just prior to displaying my ticket for entry into the terminal, I stopped on the sidewalk for just one more cigarette before going inside. Just as I put the cig into my mouth, a uniformed security guard approached me. I thought he was going to tell me No Smoking here Sir. Instead the security guard pulled a lighter from his pocket and said ” Lite Sir ? “. To me, that is real service and I spent a few moments engaging in polite conversation with him. Maybe he was just checking me out ? I think he was really just being polite and hospitable. From what I have read in the past few years ( much of it here on LIP ) there have been a lot of ” Passenger Friendly ” improvements at this airport.
Once inside I asked where the check in terminal was for the airline I was using is located and was politely and accurately shown. I usually ask 2 different people and make sure the info is the same, just to be sure.
I had no apprehensions or anything I could find to complain about at this airport this visit.
Now, I am still getting over the ” Jet-Lag ” and catching up on some websurfing LOL !
Bob: Utterly asinine.. I always wonder whether they even know what they are looking for. LAX was a zoo when the baggage screening started, but last few times through there, it seemed to have improved.
Great Article, I bet it feels good to get that off your chest. I don’t know how you keep calm traveling as much as you do. You know I hear more and more about the TSA and how they treat people, as if we are the terrorist with no right to privacy and we are guilty until proven innocent.
One hour ago I watched a youtube video about a guy talking about how his crippled mother in a wheelchair was treated because the metal detector went off. She was crying and upset as they searched her and treated her as a terrorist.
Plus the naked body scanners that violate your privacy and if you refuse to go through one, you are humiliated by the way they treat you, according to some reports I read.
Police officers on the street cannot treat you as the TSA agents do. They can search you without cause, steal from you and do whatever they want. It is crazy! I don’t know what needs to be done to stop this nonsense, except stop flying.
As a side note, I also have always been treated professionally when flying in Southeast Asia.
Kake: Yep, it felt good! Again, the lack of dignity is the problem, not necessarily all of the procedures. And, you are correct, police officers are normally not allowed to act that way. In the United States, TSA, immigration, and customs are all virtually untouchable as to their actions, with little to no accountability… AND THEY KNOW IT.
John
Yes things are improved in Heathrow and I certainly don`t recognize any of the scenarios you outline, screaming and barking indeed! If you do as you are asked and be patient there is no problem, perhaps you are not always as patient as you should be? (:-))
Malcolm
Malcolm: I normally say little to anything at security, immigration, or customs, unless I am sdpecifically asked a question. However, I find rudeness at Heathrow not only common, but to be the norm.
John.. Well we will just have to agree to disagree, I have never encountered any rudeness at Heathrow ever in all the years I have traveled through there. Strange isn`t it? LOL Malcolm
John – Just to segway to a different security, have you ever been to MRT here? I dislike the guards there! They check gift wrapped packages more than they do with your bag! You know they just poke a stick in there and that’s it. Whereas if you have present, they’d asked you to unwrap it- which is fine, but then it’s never the same way as how it has been wrapped prio… which is irritating! He he. Just sharing.
Sugar: Yeah, I’ve seen that on the MRT here. However, in Manila a few years ago there was a bombing on a train that used wrapped packages, so at least there is precedent. The bigger problem at the MRT is that the security check is a huge bottleneck… So many people trying to get into the station that was never designed for a checkpoint.
Yea I have to agree with you John The Philippine airport is stuffy but they are polite about it ..and i don’t mind waiting in line if they are polite about it …and besides it’s the Philippines who’s in a hurry …Phil R.
Phil: Normally, I’m in a hurry. But I’ve always been treated politely here.
John – Well, it’s good that you’re treated politely. Filipinos are always and very polite especially to foreigners. So much so that at time they’d treat them with more with politeness (and hospitality) rather that doing so with their own.
John,
I could not agree more with everything you’ve said. We too have found the treatment in most of Asia (especially Philippines, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Japan) much more pleasant and polite than seems to be the rule in the U.S. I would only add that in the U.S. the rude, officious attitude isn’t limited to the TSA. Try crossing a land border some time, or try getting anything done at any of the ‘enforcement’ oriented federal agencies. I have often wondered — are these people specifically trained never to say ‘please’ or ‘thank you’?
Jack: I’ve crossed many times going between Vancouver and Seattle and San Diego / TJ. Been across a bunch of times at Detroit, though not post 9/11. It’s always a hassle. I guess that pass card that people can get who travel frequently overland helps quite a bit (There’s never any lines at those lanes). I actually used to fly into YVR quite often when I had to travel to Seattle (usually Bellingham) from Asia, and, at one time, it was much easier, given the much greater number of flights going to YVR. However, after the last couple of times and the border hassles, “forget it”. Interesting contrast: My father grew up in ElPaso, Texas, and up until the 1990′s, people living there hopped back and forth over the border nearly daily (At one time, Juarez was where the good restaurants were located). Last time in ElPaso, the hassles had gotten so bad, people no longer bothered (Before the current drug violence was when I was there last… I’m assuming the crossing is worse now).
Hi John M.,
Here’s another story from your “favorite” airport in FL-Ft. Lauderdale-Hollywood Airport, where a blogger reportedly cuffed for not going through that new x-ray machine. It happened early this week. Watch out for the “Invasion of the Full-Body Scanner”.
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Blogger-Cuffed-for-Refusing-Full-Body-Scan-at-Airport-107075793.html
Mars
John, I viewed the TSA supplied you tube incident above, but all it showed is the woman explaining her decision not to go through the scanner, but it’s only 13 minutes and the othe is shorter. The woman said she was detained for more about an hour and cuffed.
Today’s headline from Fox News about passenger here in the US starting to complain about the scanner-article below.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/12/invasive-airport-screening-stirs-backlash-airline-passengers/
Mars
Mars: Not surprising at all…
Hello John, I have always been treated well at the Filipino airports I’ve been to including the provincial ones. I travel frequently in the US and find the treatment varies. Worst experience ever was at Logan in Boston. I arrived 2 hours early only to stand in line long enough to risk missing my flight. I voiced my concern to the people overseeing the procedure only to be told by the nattily attired Mass State trooper I should have arrived 4 hours early…to which I replied I could drive the distance I was traveling in 5 hours why would anyone be insane enough to subject themselves to such abuse? At which point I was hastened to the front of the line by the lovely Continental representative. LAX is no picnic especially given the renovations. Stood outside the international terminal in line waiting for the PAL counter the last few times. Dallas, Newark and Atlanta seem to be among the few that have a clue. There always seems to be some issue no matter where I go. Hardest time coming back into the states was driving back from Toronto after a day of shopping. Being treated like criminals and accused of being a liar by the ICE inspector at the port of entry in Buffalo left the worst impression on my 10 year old. I think rudeness must be a prerequsite for some of the agencies. I deal with the Coast Guard on a daily basis and have found them to be nothing but professional. Then again I have a client/ customer relationship with them. I imagine during an encounter on the water things could be different as they often meet drunks or smugglers, lol.
Mark: Aas to the USCG, it depends on how your encounter is. There is a spirited debate on one of the Lloyds List blogs now about mariners being hassled and that lines with crews in good uniforms get hassled less. If that’s the case, could the bad guys get a pass simply because they are well-dressed?
As to airports, because I lived in LA, I have very rarely transited there. Logan certainly has its moments. O’Hare (Transits are usually OK… Perhaps it is because there are many more checkpoints?), DFW, and, surprisingly, IAD and JFK, have always been OK with me. My opinion, worst in the USA is still MIA and DCA… Both are rude, crowded, and horrendous.
Hi John and other Commentors:
What I would really like to know is how does the experience (not necessarily security, but the overall experience) of flying in and out of Clark Airport compare with flying from or to Manila Airport (NAIA)?
Is there any big advantages or disadvantages flying in/out of Clark? I’ve only experienced NAIA. But they often have promos at Cebu Pacific Air for flights from Clark. So I was hoping to hear from someone who has used Clark airport and can tell me their experience there, compared to NAIA.
Reid: Clark is somewhat of a hassle for me (location), so I have never flown out of there. However, Dave Starr has written very noddingly about Clark on his PhiliFAQs site… http://www.philfaqs.com, many times.
The problem with NAIA security in Terminal 1 is the ineffiency of departure. Before you get to your plane, there are three separate metal detector checks and a personal interview before you get to the check-in counter plus another boarding pass/passport check later not to mention the departure fee pay booth. If you want to use the bathroom at the gate, you have to go through a security re-check after. Blah. At least the people were polite.
At US Customs in Detroit, I was asked a few irrelevant questions like the age of my girlfriend and the date of our wedding accompanied by a “you must be crazy for doing this” smirk on the agent’s face.
You’re right about Japan airport security. No problems for me, but I’ve only been on connecting flights.
Don: Don’t even get me started on US Customs. NAIA can be a real hassle on busy days, especially if you are leaving when the Middle East flights are departing.
What would be your destination of choice for a visa run? Where there would be the least hassles.
Reid: In my mind, Hong Kong, Macao, or Singapore are easiest due to the number if flights. Each has their own advantages, but I suggest making a long weekend or holiday out of it. Quite a few people go to KL or Bangkok too. KL tends to be more expensive flight except on Air Asia, but both are relatively cheap once there. Hong Kong and Macao can get pricey on hotels. Air Asia also started flying to KK in Sabah, and there are lots of things to do there. Flights to Taiwan, Brunei, Vietnam, and Japan tend to be on the expensive side compared to the other locations, and Mainland China requires a visit visa.
Thanks John, I can find an affordable ticket price to just about anyplace near Philippines. But, never being to any of the other Asian countries, I was wondering about the hassles and/or costs involved once I’m there, with getting to and from the airport, hotels, friendliness of people, that kind of thing. I would imagine if I flew to Macau, Japan, Taiwan, Bangkok, or Vietnam I would find myself in the middle of a chaotic city? Singapore and Malaysia, I think are more mellow (and safe?). I heard Singapore is expensive for hotel, food, etc. I don’t know about airport fees or what other costs. The goal would be to go smoothly from hotel to a safe, not too crazy place to stay for an enjoyable couple of days, and then back to the airport again with the least amount of hassles, and spending as little as possible on hotel, transportation, and food/entertainment.
Oops. “The goal would be to go smoothly from hotel to a safe…”
Sorry I meant to say, “The goal would be to go smoothly from the airport to a safe…”
Reid: All are safe, particularly Singapore and Japan. Singapore can get expensive on hotels, but occasionally Expedia runs special packages which can be a good deal. Best food in SIN is at the hawker stalls (Street food), very cheap, and perfectly safe to eat at any of them. SIN is not a cheap destination, though, but one of the safest cities in the world. It can be a lot of fun if you’ve never been there, and if asawa holds a Philippine passport, she can go with you without a visa. I’m there frequently… Recommend checking to see if Orchid CC or “M” hotel (paricularly “M”…nice and good location) have a deal going. The new Marina Sands has some specials too, right now. There is also a reasonable Ibis hotel there, not particularly convenient, but the MRT in SIN is great and taxis are cheap in any event. Avoid the really cheap Indian and Chinese hotels if you want to rest and have a good time. Cheaper is virtually never the better option in SIN. The MRT goes right into Changi Airport terminal 3. If you fly Cebu Pacific or Tiger, you will land at the Budget Terminal, and a taxi is your best bet (about US$20 into town).
For cheapest, safest, probably Macao, if you don’t gamble, or Bangkok. In Macao, the Holiday Inn Select has decent specials. If you try HKG, the one there at Times Square, near Causeway, is really good value and really convenient… Take the airport express train, HK$110 (about US$12), to Central (20 minutes), quick, 5 – 10 minute taxi to hotel, and you are in the heart of Hong Kong. In HKG and Macao, avoid the really cheapo places like Chunkging Mansions or you are likely to end up in a bedbug-infested flophouse. In Bangkok, Pathumwan Princess and any of the Furama hotels are reasonable and nice, in particular, after the unrest this year (which really didn’t impact tourists). In KL, a cheap destination for things to do and reasonably safe, stay near central. The Concorde is often inexpensive and nice. If you arrive on anyone except Air Asia, the Airport Express train costs around 30 Ringgit (US$10) and takes 30 minutes. 5 minute taxi from Central Station. Unfortunately, if you fly Air Asia, you land at the LCCC and getting into town becomes a real PITA unless you use the Air Asia express bus (buy the ticket on the plane) or you take the intra terminal shuttle bus (only one per hour) to the main terminal and take the train from there.
Vietnam is very cheap and safe, but can be a hassle at entry and the tickets are often pricey from the Philippines.
Indonesia can be OK if you find a deal, but the only nonstops from Manila are to Jakarta, and I really cannot recommend it as a destination for a quick Visa run. If you want to make a week of it, perhaps.
For inexpensive visa run, avoid Taiwan, Japan, and Korea… These are all much more expensive in general.
Reid: Forgot to mention… If you go to KL, the Airport Pan Pacific (IN the airport) is truly a 5 star hotel, and on the weekends has really great deals (like 1/2 price) and one of the best Sunday Buffets in all of Asia. Problem is that the KL airport is nearly 80 km outside town (Why the train is the best way) in an area called Putrajaya, and there is virtually nothing to do anywhere nearby (Nothing but palm plantations, government buildings, and a motorway). For a very quick visa run, where you just want to fly in, overnight, and fly out, stay in your room, this may work out to be “cheapest”, depending on the ticket price, but very, very boring in my opinion. If you fly Air Asia to the LCCC, next to the terminal there is the “X” hotel (owned by Air Asia, which is very, very cheap, and clean, but absolutely no frills. Likewise, the Concorde Airport Hotel (I stayed once on an overnight transit flight to Langkawi when Pan Pacific was full…hated it) is also very near the LCCC, and cheap (About US$60), but you still have the same problem… Absolutely nothing nearby.
Hi John. Great artcle. If you return to the U.S., be ready for the full body scanners or the full body pat down. People are quite very upset, as the body examiners may pat the passengers in their most private places.
Roselyn: The body scanners don’t bother me… but the hassle does. Bunch of articles on the Net this past weekend about how people are finally starting to get fed up and protest the nonsense.
Hi John,
In today’s Manila Times, a section of this post was quoted. It was from John M. The quote and the name sounded oddly familiar.
Alex
Alex: Interesting… I’ll look it up.
Hi John – I note that the Manila Times says that you have been to “every country in the world”! Wow, I knew you traveled a lot… but not that much!
Nice that they lifted part of the article from this site and did not even provide a link or mention that site! Such class, Manila Times!
Bob: I found the article after reading Alex’s note. They never contacted me to interview or check. I’ve visited about 70 countries, but not all of them! As I was reading it, I thought they should have mentioned LiP, especially since though they are my words, you really own them due to the copyright… I guess the only consolation is that a small article like that would get very little traffic, but they really should have cited properly or asked your permission. (I’m assuming it passed by the MT editors since the writer only gave only my initial and just said “blog”)
Yeah, it appears that their journalistic standards at Manila Times are quite low!
Hey Bob,
You can at least take pride this site is being monitored! he he he… I discovered as well the Filipino forums are being monitored. Some bureaucrats get into genuine discussions of issues while some are paid operatives (I can only guess.)
Congrats! LiP has finally made it in the big leagues.
Alex
Oh, LiP has been quoted in newspapers and magazines before! Even when the site was still quite young. Difference is, those other publications actually had the ethics to tell where they got the information from. Manila Times doesn’t have the ethics to do so, apparently.
John, Alex, and Bob, I hope it’s alright to comment too. I read the article. I never really browse Manila Time. John M was referred to as ‘ One blogger’. Gosh, one blogger from where? I guess MT’s editors weren’t “On heightened alert.” A mention of the site that is LiP, where they have quoted John’s posting, should have been put in there. Anyway, John.. he he…you’re jet setter.
I can say that the scores of times I’ve been in the UK, they are super cordial with me. The US makes me think Hitler is the president. Even my own home of Canada gives me TONS of crap coming in. And I’m a citizen!
While most of Asia and Europe have been pretty lax for me, surprisingly, NAIA has been the easiest! Every time I or the family go, we camp out on the floor. Can’t do that elsewhere. We literally set up a camp. Beds, walls, laptop movies, food. No one ever says wit to us.
Also, even if I’m alone, I am treated nice by the airport staff and security. Maybe it’s my Filipino(learn it!) They know I’m not here to have sex with 5 year olds. I either have a wife/family, or I’m a business man(along with the Joe treatment, I get the Chinoy treatment too. Funny.) I can’t say a lot of good about this place. And we all know airport security globally, is inept, even if they annoy you a lot, they still don’t maintain security. I have all good to say about NAIA. I’ve even gotten away with… well, I can’t say of course. Can’t but my kuya…
IT IS HIGH TIME AIRPORT SECURITY PROCESS BE REVIEWED FOR IMPROVEMENTS IMPLEMENTATION… HOPEFULLY THE TOURISM AND TRAVEL ASSOCIATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL SPEARHEAD / LOBBY THE CAUSE ON BEHALF OF THE TRAVELLING PUBLIC..!!