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I never thought I’d move here. Subic, maybe, but Angeles City, never. But a combination of circumstances in my wife’s family, the return of the baby we were caring for to her teenage parents and my wife’s loneliness in Cebu City made it happen. Most of her family are now in Angeles City, having escaped from rural Samar. Angeles City is the only place they can find work. No one finished school. No one has a high school diploma except my wife, but in Angeles, men can work at construction sites mixing cement and carrying things; some of the women have found work outside of the bars, but some work there too. Many don’t work at all; they just are.

My wife followed me to Japan when I taught there, and then Vienna, Austria, so now we are here. It’s been two days and so far all is well. We rented a house in an upscale security neighborhood far from Field’s Avenue and the bars, and it just seems like another, although smaller than Cebu, Philippines City.

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We went shopping at a place called the Pure Gold Market and people kept saying hello to Rachel in Waray. “That’s my cousin,” she’d say or “He’s from Sua.” It’s like a homecoming.

We found the easiest way to move was to fly from Cebu to Clark and pay for 40 kg of baggage for each of us. 1100 Php for the ticket and 1250 for 40 kg baggage on Air Asia. That’s pretty cheap. We packed a couple of Balikbayan boxes and landed at Clark 1 hour and 10 minutes later. Yesterday I flew back to Cebu, got another 40 kg and flew back. Luckily we still have our condo in Cebu City so that makes the back and forth petty easy.

Now, of course, there’s the car, my motorbike, and the cats.

Here’s the plan, and here’s where I can use some advice from you erudite readers.

In early December I will be bringing my 2016 Kia Rio, packed with household stuff, from Cebu to Manila on the 2Go Roro. I will be traveling by car and my two cats (yes we’re taking care of all the necessary BAI travel docs for the cats.) The ship lands at Pier 4 in Tondo.

I don’t know to navigate Manila and drive from Pier 4 through the city to the highway to Angeles City? I’ve looked at maps and they are as confusing to this old guy as not having a map.

I am looking for a driver to meet me at Pier 4 and to drive me and my car to Angeles or even to the entrance of the Toll Road Highway to Angeles City. Once I am on the highway and out of city traffic, I think I can drive the rest of the way to Angeles.

Anybody up for this job? Does anybody have a reliable brother/friend/driver who can help me out? I don’t know the exact date but it looks like December 7 or 8, and of course, I will pay them.

A few weeks later I will be making the same trip with my 150cc Honda Click. I can do the driving there but, I need a route, the back way from Pier 4 Tondo to Angeles City. Because it’s not a 400cc bike, I can’t drive on the toll roads and highway, so it has to be a different route.

Does anybody have a map with written directions on how to make this trip North from Manila, Pier 4 on a 150cc motorbike? I’d appreciate the help? 

So that’s about the status of our adventure now. We’ve found a couple of good restaurants here. We have the internet connected and so far I’ve avoided Fields Avenue.

I rented a 125cc Suzuki and I did drive past a sign that said,

“Need a Hickey? Ask for Mrs. Hickey?”

I’m not sure what service she offers, but I’m covering my neck.

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Rob Ashley

After travelling to the Philippines and SE Asia perhaps 15 times between 2007-2011, I decided to retire in Cebu and moved here in August 2011. Things changed fast. A month after I was here I met my wife Rachel; In 6 months I decided I was bored after having taught high school English and in a graduate school of education at a Portland, Oregon university for 30+ years; I looked around; I was hired as the Head of the English Department at a Cebu international school. Rachel and I got married; we bought a condo in Cebu City; we got two cats. After 3 years here I was offered a similar position at a Japanese international school, so we went to Japan. After two years there I was offered another position of Coordinator of Languages at a Vienna, Austria international school. Living in Europe was nice, but Rachel said, “It’s too cold here.” So, finally last August, we returned to Cebu for good, and I really am retired. I have learned that you pretty much take your life with you wherever you go. I have a PhD from the University of Oregon and I’m a diehard Oregon Ducks fan. Likewise an NBA Portland Trailblazers fan, so I am often up at 3 am on Sundays or Mondays to watch football and basketball games. Cebu is home now and many thanks to Bob Martin for LIP and the services and opportunities he offers us Expats.

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John Reyes

Wow, Rob, just like that you’ve moved from Cebu to Angeles. I travel part of the route you’re talking about with my driver from Manila to my province of Zambales all the time during our Philippine vacations, but not all the way to Angeles City. I can tell you that your only problem would be navigating Manila and the horrendous traffic from Pier 4 heading north to the first province you will encounter, which is Bulacan, then the province of Pampanga, your destination. Once outside Manila, it’s expressway driving most of the way, with a number of tolls. Getting out… Read more »

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

John: This is great help and I will contact him. Yes, I need someone to meet me an the car at Pier 4 and drive me and car to Angeles. So, if he is a driver perhaps he can do this. My wife does speak Tagalog. I do not know the exact shipping details yet from Cebu to Manila, but I am working on it. I knew I would never be able to navigate Manila.If you have an email for driver that would be great. My email is rb5967@hotmail.com -Rob

John Reyes
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John Reyes

Rob – Larry’s email is mhulominor@yahoo.com

I will be away from my laptop for the next 3 hours to watch the Kansas City Chiefs/LA Rams game, Rob, so if there is any message that needs answering, it may not be answered until after the game. LOL

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

John: I understand completely. For me it’s the Oregon Ducks football games. I am incommunicado during the games. -Rob

John Reyes
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John Reyes

Rob, I just heard from Larry. He will help you, just tell him what you need done when you meet at Pier 4. It would help greatly, he said, if Rachel could be there to translate.

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

John: Larry has already contacted me and he is talking (in Tagalog) with my wife now. Thanks so much. THIS is the strength of LIP and we should keep it going even though Bob moves on. Rob

John Reyes
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John Reyes

Rob – I agree wholeheartedly. The power of LiP may be immeasurable.

Whatever Bob decides to do with LiP, though, all I want for Christmas is for LiP to go back to its previous format where, (1) the “Recent Comments” column on the right margin existed – it is, in my opinion, the most convenient way of tracking new comments, thus triggering more comments; (2) readers’ comments had the date and time of their posting, not “3 days ago”, or “3 years ago”.

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

John: I agree and like the return to “Recent Comments.” -Rob

Bob Martin
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Anybody who wants to buy the site is welcome to make whatever changes they want. PM me if you are interested. LoL

Murray
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Murray

Hi Rob
I can’t help with your transport problems. It looks like John has already taken care of these. If you wish, I meet with a good bunch of ex-pats of all nationalities at Moons Bar, Diamond Subdivision. We meet daily, we are not a pack of drunks, we just have a few social beers, as being retired we really don’t have much else to do. Angeles City has a bit of a reputation, but as you have found there are good places. The bad stuff is only there if you go looking for it.

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Murray: This looks great and yes I’d love to meet up with a group of guys. Just guys to talk with and have a beer or two. I will check out where Diamond Subdivision is and contact you all. My email is rb5967@hotmail.com if you want to tell me how to text you. Great help and thanks for the invite. Rob

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Murray: I found Moon’s bar. Looks great. What time is your group usually there? Rob

Murray
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Murray

Usually at 12 noon for lunch

Don
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Don

Just use waze. No problems with the map service in Manila. Plan 2-3 hours drive. If you are getting a driver, more likely he will not show up. So again use waze.

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Don: Thank you. Good info. John Reyes above has a friend as a driver so I will hope for the best, but will use your info too. Thank you, Rob

Paul Thompson
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Paul Thompson

Rob: You will find the best places to eat on Fields Ave, it not all bars.. Margarita Station is a food place where if you need information to answer those questions you have, a couple of hours there with great food and no hoochie-girls You will meet many English Speaking people there and solve tour transportation problem. Hire a trunk to load your Honda in as you will be days on the back roads to AC from Mega Manila. Remember the bad things you hear about AC, are only on two streets, not the whole town which is nice. It’s… Read more »

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Paul: As always you are right on. Angeles is turning out to be ok and not a lot of contact with Fields. We’re in a nice, quiet subdivision. Of course we’ve been to SM Mall about 12 times as it is, so far. the only place to go. I can either hire a guy to drive my Honda Click from Pier 4 or have it hauled up…that’s next month’s problem. Hope to meet you one day in Subic. Rob

Don
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Don

You cant take the scooter on NLEX so better to have it hauled. Note that you can buy a new Honda Wave or Yamaha Mio for 50k or 70k, so may not be worth it to bring.

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Don: I think having it hauled from Pier 4 to Angeles is a good idea. Anybody know anyone who does this or who i can talk to? It’s a brand new Honda Click 150i that i just bought in Cebu, so, it’s coming with me. Thanks for the suggestion. -Rob

John Reyes
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John Reyes

Rob – Ask Larry if he can do it, he has a van. I don’t know, though, if the bike is small enough to fit in his van.

Don
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Don

Remember to give him a copy of CR/OR and letter authorizing him to take off Pier if your not accompanying.

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

John: We will be travelling with the car so will have the 6 copies of the CR and OR they require. Also our two cats (in carriers) with the Bureau of Animal Industries docs. Everything gets done 3 days before sailing from Cebu. More Adventure. -Rob

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

John: He’ll be the first I ask. It’s a 150 cc Honda Click. Great size for this part of the world. If his van isn’t big enough, I bet he will know where to get a van or truck. -Rob

David Haldane
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David Haldane

Hey, Rob, that sounds like quite a move! Good luck. I look forward to hearing how it all works out…

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Thanks David: So far so good. -Rob

RANDY WEIS
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RANDY WEIS

Rob, Hope everything goes well with getting your car and bike to Angeles. We have been there several times as quite a bit of my wife’s family lives there. A couple of good restaurants there are the Clarkton Hotel and the Swiss Chalet Hotel right off Fields Ave. Paul can vouch for both places. There is a S&R right off NLEX on the Dau Exit of Angeles and Marquee Mall right off the first Angeles Exit. The only problem I don’t like about Angeles is it gets so hot there in the Summer. We are going back to the States… Read more »

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Randy: Thanks for this info and we will check out Clarkton buffet. You are returning to US permanently or are you back and forth? Rachel’s family who are here are all poor but it’s the only place the guys can find some construction work without hs diplomas. One brother in law was working at a site, but the owner just got robbed. They knew he was going to be robbed but was told if he goes to police they would kill him. So, just as planned, they robbed him. Relatives in US have now stopped sending money for the project… Read more »

Jack
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Hi Rob
Why not get a SatNav, you could do the driving yourself or get a driver and go with him. This way you will soon get used to the routes you want and maybe find your way around more easily.
Regards
Jack

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Jack. Thanks for the advice. I will check out SatNav. For this trip, John Reyes has really helped out and steered us to a solution. -Rob

RANDY WEIS
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RANDY WEIS

Our plan is to split our time in both places.

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Randy: A good plan. It’s nice to have two, very different homes. Rob

francois - williams
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I could never recommend a family settling in AC…for obvious reasons but if in doubt I expanded on all that in several vlogs on youtube…just search for my full name and watch at your leisure…but to reiterate…AC is just about the worst place to live in Philippines, and pretty bad even by Asian standards in general…I live here in Mindanao btw, which is kinda real cool…

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Francois: I can’t say I’m too impressed with Angeles, but it is where my wife’s family is now, so I am being a good soldier. I will make the best of it. Not a lot to do here, so far. Rob

Cordillera Cowboy
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Hello Rob,

Looks like y’all made the transition quickly. I think the two of you will do well there in Angeles.

And hooray for John Reyes sending in the cavalry to help out!

Toke care,
Pete

Rob Ashley
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Rob Ashley

Pete: Thank you for the good wishes and you are right about John. His guy contacted me right away and we’re all set up. Be well, Rob

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