Spanish = Mierda de Toro, Tagalog= kalokohan, Gaelic = Cacamas or just plain “Bullshit” The truth is that most of us posses a BS detector, that will sound an alarm when someone attempts to blow smoke up our arse.
When I hear it I respond much faster than I really should and diplomacy and politeness is instantly flushed away.
My Tax Return showed up. Then I was forced to phone the IRS Office in Austin Texas to prove that I was the proper person that Miss Johnson was in fact speaking to. Was I, the correct Mr. Thompson and not some nefarious malefactor who was just copying my distinctive style?
This was the first time for me to ever have to do this, and at first it sounded like a scam to me. A classic catch 22, they want me to verify it is me, but I have no way to verify who they are? How on God’s Green Earth can this be done on the phone but they told me it was imposable to do on line?
Even the letter they sent looked hinkey as hell. But after a few days of research I found this program was a leftover from a previous administration and that no one could explain the why of it unless some group was searching for Americans that might live outside of the US of A and process hidden bank accounts that the IRS doesn’t know about?
But Miss Johnson, bless her heart was now gainfully employed but could not answer my questions. But I knew it had to be true as only the US Government would make people phone Monday -Friday between the hours 0800 to 1700 on Austin Texas Time and then have you request an English speaking reprehensive to assist you, Miss Johnson spoke English! BTW; I’m not making this “BS” up, press 7 for English) if they were trying to scam you they would have made it easy instead of the convoluted plan they have now.
Doubt me? Here’s the toll free number 1-800-830-5084 plus there were ample threats and warnings in the letter that mentioned an impending doom for non compliance to make me believe it was true.
Okay I completed the assigned task and received my money a week later. Normally I’d just deposit it in savings in the states as I have no pressing need for it. But this year I decided I would buy the love of my life a new cell-a phone called the “Oppo F3 Plus”. Super Whiz-bang Cell-a phone this was a surprise gift for Mayang because as we walked through the Mall, I saw her looking at the phone on display in every store, and asked the girl in one store to explain it to me. I liked it, my wife wanted it so I whipped out my Visa card and said wrap it up! Out comes the assistant manager guy. First he explained I had to pay an extra few percent for not using cash, and the four free items that are included such as a 10 gig memory card, a selfie stick, and two other thing-a-ma-bob gifts. I smiled and said with proper inflection;”BULLSHIT” cancel the sale which was ₱23,000.00 and change or $485.00. But sir, we ran your card and it was approved? (Approved being the important point)
How sad I said, that you’ll you lose a big sale, and one of these others 25 stores selling the same phone will sell it to me without the Bullshit you are feeding me. He disappeared to call a higher up, the three girls, told my wife; “Ate, your husband will get his way and you’ll get the free stuff and not pay any extra” I must not have been the first foreigner to enter that shop!
I told them that the word “Bullshit” is a very powerful word in the English language. For twenty five years I’ve been putting up with that “BS” phony rule here in the Philippines, which has no basis in fact.
I don’t know how many credit cards users fall for this phony rule imposed by shop owners. For years I’ve refused to go along with them and have shopped with my shoes as I left their building and purchased the same item at another store.
I did it my way, and my wife loves her new Cell-a Phone!
The young man should quit that job, and open a movie rental shop and feature movies only in the Beta and VHS format, plus he should accept credit cards as the only form of payment and then he can collect those extra fees!
Alex Kennedy
Dealing with the IRS is like dealing with the SSA or VA. As to the guy in the phone shop, most simply lose the sale because they don’t comprehend that 100% of nothing is just exactly that, nothing.
hgb
Your experience reminds me of a tricycle driver who wants triple the fare when he sees me. I say No and walk on or wait for a Jeepney/Multicab.
It seems they’d rather make zip than charge me the correct amount. Filipino Pride?
Paul Thompson
HGB
Oh the “Bite your nose syndrome” My best example; 1997 a Lady selling her land for 95,000. Pesos I offer 90 cash. She refused but sold it one week later for 80,000 Pesos 3 gives. She showed me!
Paul Thompson
Alex;
With a Credit Card the money is in the company’s account that second he finishes the sale. With cash at the end of the day it’s deposited in the bank and slowly someone will open the bag and process that deposit that money. I wonder if he likes checks instead of credit cards?
angkoldoy
The Filipino consumer and market has never endured the “bounced” personal check culture that exists in many market places in the world. USA retail outlets accepted the pay by credit card system in a New York Minute over personal checks. Bounced personal checks costs the US consumers and businesses tons. It has always been cash (and very personal ‘utang’ accounts) in the Filipino retail markets. If the Filipino market had endured bounced checks these Filipino retail outlets and their ‘managers’ would not hesitate to accept credit cards and the small fees associated with the transactions. As it is, they try to pass the fees on to the user of the credit card. “Nature abhors inequalities”. Last September, I paid for a couple nights stay at a resort in Bohol with a ‘US’ credit card: No questions asked, no additional fees.
Paul Thompson
Angkoldoy;
I owned two night clubs and took one check a month, from the owner of the cable TV company who would have his wife pay his hefty bar bill on his tab. He was forever buying his employees drinks. Sometimes he would phone me and pay for a round of drinks on his tab. Other than that no other checks were allowed but I was one of the first club/bar owner to take credit cards in Puerto Rico.
I have found the charging of extra fees is a habit that is now going out the door here in the Philippines, but some few still try!
Steve
Well Done Sir!
Always good to hear about anyone refusing to accept nonsense of this kind. Like you I’ve lived in the Philippines a long time and have developed a low tolerance to this type of “Bullshit”. I don’t complain in the market when I’m overcharged, I just put it down to being 6 foot tall and blonde, so I smile, pay and accept that life’s too short to argue over a few Peso (and my wife gets to have fun with me afterwards for overpaying again!).
On the other hand if a underhand retailer tells me that’s it’s their “Company Policy” to take the opportunity to gouge me, I reply that it’s my policy not to do business with swindlers and head for the door.
Happy that all turned out well with your wife’s new phone.
Cheers,
Paul Thompson
Steve;
In the market I know I’m toast, but as you said it is the game that must be played between them and us. The problem is they have practiced the game their whole life and we are the new comer. But our right cheating is as Popeye said; “That is all I can stand and I’ll stand no more!” I set my feet to walking and never darken their door again. They decided they didn’t want my money. In the market, I just smile, and my wife will also joke with me for even trying!
Blue boy
“But sir, we ran your card and it was approved? (Approved being the important point)”
Before you go to “swipe” your Credit Card and before it goes chika-boom-bah on your bank, Paul Thompson, the total amount will be displayed in the LCD screen in the card swiping machine. So the whole question of the shop guy running your card does not exist, until you have seen the amount and personally approved it and handed him over the card to be swiped. Charging a bit extra for using the credit card, especially if it is a foreign one is very much a standard practice in many countries, including Europe. It has nothing to do with you being an American. They would do the same for a Filipino or any other nationality. Then again as you said, some shops may not charge you the “extra” depending what arrangements or credit card processing merchant account they got. You are however well within your rights to know the final price of any goods, before you decide to pay for it, given the fact there is a culture of “concealment” of hidden costs. Again, many American corporations pull the same on consumers as well. So such “exploitative” practices on customers are not limited only to Philippines or other developing nations.
Paul Thompson
Blue Boy/
After the third reading I still don’t know if you agree with me or not? I knew the cost of my wife’s new phone and saw the amount of what was imputed, I already told them I refused the extra charge and it was not on the charge sheet, and he was still moaning about it but then decided to not give my wife her 4 free promos is when I told him to void the sale. I’m sorry if you were misled by my article.
I used the term foreigner vice American to avoid ignoring our friends from Europe within the conversation about the Philippines.
On the subject of Europe, I rented a car in Europe, while parked on a ferry and on the main deck far from the car, and where I was directed, a tour bus hit it. I was going to be charged $1,000.00 for damages. (Visa covers claims not the customer) When I got to Rome I voided the charge with my bank and flew to Puerto Rico. The Italian court sent me a letter demanding I return to Italy to face the punishment! It has been 30 years and I never heard from them again. Gotta love the control we have over our Visa!